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Help on what to upgrade first

Post  SleuthMechanism on Sat May 04, 2013 3:45 pm

So, ok. i'm super indecisive about stuff and thus have the following assortment of equips and have no idea what i should upgrade first.
- Miracle hood(Probably going for chaos)
-ashtail coat(Going for vog)
-Dark thorn Blade
- Silent Nightblade
- Cryo Driver
- Fireburst Brandish(Bought and maxed out forever ago but neglected to upgrade since at the time i didn't rally see the need to have an elemental sword because zombies are super predictable and i prefer to fight Kats at a distance anyway but.. tier 3 is making me wish i could kill undead and such faster.)
- Needle shot(bought and got to level 5 yesterday on a random whim. though now i'm sort of regretting this since now it means i'll have to upgrade the fireburst brandish too making 5* take even longer.)
- wise owlite shield.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  sTartar on Sat May 04, 2013 5:07 pm

I would wait on the Chaos hood. It has so many negatives that I think it is best if all your other equips are maxed out before you start using that. You don't want to the negatives of the Chaos hood paired with a bunch of other weak equips.

I think at this point in the game your focus should be on getting a good setup for FSC. That's the fastest way to make the money and heat you will need to level all of this stuff. For that reason I would suggest upgrading your armor to Vog first. The fire protection really is a must.

The vast majority of FSC involves smashing zombies. So leveling an elemental gun or sword would also be a good option. There are times in FSC when other weapons are necessary but it is likely that the other members of your party will have that covered. As long as you can contribute to the zombie eliminations you can worry about the other stuff later.

If you do not want to focus on FSC then it comes down to your preferred enemy. Decide what type of monsters you prefer fighting in T3 and level whichever of your weapons is most effective against that foe.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  SleuthMechanism on Sat May 04, 2013 5:36 pm

sTartar wrote:I would wait on the Chaos hood. It has so many negatives that I think it is best if all your other equips are maxed out before you start using that. You don't want to the negatives of the Chaos hood paired with a bunch of other weak equips.

I think at this point in the game your focus should be on getting a good setup for FSC. That's the fastest way to make the money and heat you will need to level all of this stuff. For that reason I would suggest upgrading your armor to Vog first. The fire protection really is a must.

The vast majority of FSC involves smashing zombies. So leveling an elemental gun or sword would also be a good option. There are times in FSC when other weapons are necessary but it is likely that the other members of your party will have that covered. As long as you can contribute to the zombie eliminations you can worry about the other stuff later.

If you do not want to focus on FSC then it comes down to your preferred enemy. Decide what type of monsters you prefer fighting in T3 and level whichever of your weapons is most effective against that foe.
Agreed, i was definitely going to wait until i have my arour and weapons upgraded before doing chaos.
So.. after vog should i just get a hail driver and continue with my current Driver/ThornBlade set up or should i just focus on working on a combuster/blitz needle setup since to be honest, i'm getting pretty tired of dealing such a pitiful amount of damage to the latter Vanaduke phases. since really, the boss gives me much more trouble than anything.(Which is no surprise considering that he is the current final boss of the game.)
For now, i've atleast settled for going for vog first and archeron last.(Since really, it's useless for FSC and i don't fight slimes often enough anymore for it to be a big concern at the moment.)
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  Ebbion on Sat May 04, 2013 7:27 pm

You are on the same page I was a little while ago...

Tartar is right, you need to get a decent FSC setup so you can earn cr/ce and heat at a faster rate.

I did it this way:

1. Get Vog set
2. Get Combuster
3. Get Grey Owlite Shield
4. Get Blitz Needle

(this took me a while, loads of JK runs Razz)

That gives you a very decent set to run FSC with, guild or random.
From there the sky is the limit as long as you can keep up the income for a the fun gear you want to get.

Currently I am at a full chaos set with a swiftstrike. The negative stats are a pain in the ass but the fun it provides is just awesome. Makes you play a whole other way.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  Warriorrogue on Sun May 05, 2013 3:50 am

If you can dodge well, chaos set takes gameplay to a whole new level. Every weapon has max CTR and Vhigh damage. Add on two pentas to help keep healthy, or one and one gun damage module for a blitz, and a swiftstrike, and you're pretty much the most OP thing in the game.

But chaos/vog isn't bad either, and should look nice
I would recommend combuster, simply because of FSC again, and when you get to shadow lairs, UFSC, and URJP. Not UICMF.
Hail driver is much more of a solo weapon, so only get that if you want it. If you're more of a team player, get a storm or nova driver.
Acheron is good and reliable
BTB is also quite a good and reliable weapon, with a nice charge
Grey owlite shield is also quite good, standing up well in 2/4 of the SL's again

That's all I can say about your armour ATM. |I may add some more info again later.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  Superkamote on Sun May 05, 2013 9:41 am

Chaos Cowl
I would have to recommend that you avoid Chaos for the time being. As rogue said, L33T dodging is a skill needed if you want to pursue a "Glass Cannon" build(1 piece or the whole Chaos Set and an optional Swiftstrike Buckler). Even a piece of Chaos is already worse against all types of negative stats(set is the worst). Pairing it with a Vog Cub Coat (as you are planning to do) will only give you a few points of resistance together with a Cowl. If you're not too sure about your dodging skills, or you find yourself dying even with a + status resistant gear, I would suggest that you opt to upgrade that to Divine instead(or Grey Feather).

Dark Thorn Blade(or eventually, Barbarous Thorn Blade)
The only thing i don't like about it is the charge. Like the DA, you'll do a back-step first before dealing damage. But everything else is nice. I would still prefer the Final Flourish, unless you already have a DTB, in which case, go get that upgraded!

Silent Nightblade
Unlike it's other Brandish brothers(Glacius/Voltedge), charges will deal MOAR damage and MOAR push like it's much older brother, Combuster. But, since you're already getting ready to get 5* gears, I would suggest putting your moola on a much more, FSC-friendly gear. Hold off on upgrading this baby unless you're itching to do more RJPs and OCH.

Needleshot(Strike, Blitz, Blight, Plague Needles)
In the past, I was so against this weapon because you will have NO(almost) mobility when firing, charging, and reloading. But, because of the nerf on the Argent Peacemaker, I was forced to try this one out.
The trick is POSITIONING and INSIGHT. For example, Trojans, will, for the most part, do an overhead smash attack(depends on how far/close you are from him). Try tricking it into doing that (but be sure to close in on him first, so he doesn't do a charge, and not too close so he doesn't do the shock attack, but the latter is more favorable than the former) then unleash a charge of death on his back. Spraying is also a good tactic used on other, small fiends and the like.

TLDR: Slow weapon, GREAT DAMAGE. A situational gun for FSC beasts fiends, mini, and prestige bosses. GET IT please, I BEG YOU pale

just my 2 cents.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  SleuthMechanism on Sun May 05, 2013 4:38 pm

On the chaos thing i'm pretty confident in my dodging abilities to be honest so and i sort of think that by the time i can afford a full 5* set i'll have learned how to deal with certain mobs that still catch me off guard and i honestly look forward to the potential increased challenge. X3 @Warrior rogue: Yeah.. i'm not too pleased with the cryo driver lately but i just feel like i've invested too much crowns into it to waste it now. =/ If i were to work on another elemental gun later, it'd probably be argent peacemaker though.
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Re: Help on what to upgrade first

Post  Warriorrogue on Sun May 05, 2013 4:45 pm

4* isn't too much of a loss.
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