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Post  TaarsTarkus Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:34 pm

I found this helpful AH pricing guide online today and thought others in he guild might find it handy. I don't use it as an exact guide, but more like a list of good suggestions for pricing.

http://skspreadsheet.blogspot.com/
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Post  Caelifer Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:24 pm

This seems useful. The writer could have explained the page a little better but it's not too hard to figure out. Nice find!
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Post  Shimn Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:43 pm

(TL;DR version: There isn't one.)

Whoa there. I don't post a lot, but I felt compelled to do so in this case. I don't want to see my guildies get scammed out of potential earnings. Let's get one thing out of the way; I'm not particularly good at the "merchanting" aspect of games, where the goal is to become wealthy by buying and selling. However, I have been around SK long enough to know a few things. I know the point of this list is to give you a general idea of prices, but it fails to explain the reasoning behind the numbers.

A few things of note:

- The author seems to have arbitrarily picked the numbers three and four as a pricing multiplier,meaning that the buyout prices are three or four times the prices of the starting bid. Why three or four? No clue.

-You should always do your research before buying or selling anything. Point in case, some materials are plain worthless on the auction house. For example, shards will sell because every item requires it in its recipe. However, the price can range from 30 to 100 crowns each. Green shards are typically in higher demand than the other shards. Monster Bones are a 2-star material, but they will sell for much higher than other 2-star materials. Why? Because they are required for the entire line of Wolver gear (Vog, Skolver, Snarbolax) as well as the Brandish sword line (Glacius, Combuster, Acheron, Voltedge). People want to mass craft 2-star gear to sell or use, so they'll pay higher prices for in demand materials. This applies to rarer materials such as Ghost Bells or Mugs of Misery.

-Do not sell your gear for that low of a price, especially the 4 and 5-star gear. They require a pretty steep unbinding fee (1800 and 4000 CE respectively), and that's why you'll see 5-star gear go for hundreds of thousands of crowns on the auction house. So what makes up the price of an item on the auction house?

[Alchemy (in crowns and energy) + Recipe + Materials] * Auction House Fee 10% + Markup = Total Cost

Now, the actual cost you see on the auction house will not follow the formula exactly. It all depends on whether mist energy was used to craft, whether or not the full cost of the recipe is added, and even the number of similar items being sold at the time.

-The recipe prices are okay except for the 5-star ones. You'll just be throwing away your crowns to put the recipe on the auction house if you price it that high. It's going to take a very desperate buyer to take it off your hands for 48,000 crowns.

-I've saved the best for last. DISREGARD THE SO CALLED "BUFF SHEET GUIDE." IT LIES. The probability of obtaining a UV from crafting is around 10%. Multiple UVs and the higher degrees (medium, high, very high, or maximum) of UVs are even rarer. Therefore, the price of an item with rarer UVs will be exponentially higher, not linearly higher as the guide suggests. Let's use an example. Magic Cloaks and Hoods are being mass crafted because a somewhat recent update made the Chaos set stupidly strong. A Maximum Fire Resist UV Magic Cloak/Hood would sell for around 20,000 CE. A Maximum Freeze Resist UV? Maybe around 5,000 CE. Why the massive difference? In general, the order of useful status UVs goes like this: Fire/Shock > Freeze/Poison > Stun/Curse. As for weapons, CTR and ASI UVs are far more valuable than the six family-specific UVs because innate damage bonuses are plentiful and they apply to all monsters instead of a specific family.

This post is already way longer than I intended it to be, but I think it contains some useful information. If you have any unaddressed questions, feel free to ask me or any of the other experienced veterans in our guild.

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Post  SleuthMechanism Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:18 pm

Not sure if this is necessarily related but, people go nuts for crests and other accessories of any kind. stick any crest you don't plan to use(which for me equals pretty much any crest since i'm not a big fan of most of them to be honest.) on a piece of armour you want to sell and you'll be able to sell it for double or even triple the average AH sell price!
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Post  sTartar Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:08 am

I completely agree with what Shimn said. For a long time newer players have been asking for some sort of a standard price guide for the AH. The prices of somethings on the AH tend to be very stable over time but other items vary greatly - even day to day. Like Shimn mentioned with the Chaos set, changes in the game can dramatically alter the value of gear, the lower level gear used to craft the changed gear, and the materials that go into it.

My advice is to ask one veteran guild members if you have any questions. I'm leery of online pricing guides because you never know how up to date they are given the volatile nature of the AH. Also, plan ahead. If you are going to be buying or selling anything then watch the AH for a few days or even a week before you buy or sell. I tend to watch the lowest "buy it now" prices on a particular item to get a feel for the going rate. Bidding on items can go up a lot right at the end of an auction and unless you bid on the item it is hard to know what the final selling price was. If it something common like a Wolver Cap then the prices are likely to be pretty stable. If you keep an eye on it for a couple of days you should have a fair idea of the price. The price on rarer items, particularly those with highly desirable UV's, can vary greatly. For that reason I suggest monitoring prices for a longer time period for rarer and more expensive items. The key to getting a good deal through the AH is plan ahead and take the time to track the prices of the particular items you are interested in.
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